The next BriefingsDirect Voice of AI Innovation podcast explores how businesses and IT strategists are planning their path to a new normal throughout the COVID-19 pandemic and recovery.
By leveraging the latest tools and gaining data-driven inferences, architects and analysts are effectively managing the pandemic response -- and giving more people better ways to improve their path to the new normal. Artificial intelligence (AI) and data science are proving increasingly impactful and indispensable.
Stay with us as we examine how AI forms the indispensable pandemic response team member for helping businesses reduce risk of failure and innovate with confidence. To learn more about the analytics, solutions, and methods that support advantageous reactivity -- amid unprecedented change -- we are joined by two experts.
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Please welcome Arti Garg, Head of
Advanced AI Solutions and Technologies, at Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE), and Glyn Bowden,
Chief Technologist for AI and Data, at HPE Pointnext Services. The discussion is moderated by Dana Gardner, Principal
Analyst at Interarbor Solutions.
Here are some excerpts:
Gardner: We’re in uncharted waters in dealing with the complexities of the novel
coronavirus pandemic. Arti,
why should we look to data science and AI to help when there’s not
much of a historical record to rely on?
Garg: Because
we don’t have a historical record, I think data science and AI are proving to
be particularly useful right now in understanding this new disease and how we
might potentially better treat it, manage it, and find a vaccine for it. And
that’s because at this moment in time, raw data that are being collected from
medical offices and through research labs are the foundation of what we know
about the pandemic.
Garg |
This is an interesting time because,
when you know a disease, medical studies and medical research are often
conducted in a very controlled way. You try to control the environment in which
you gather data, but unfortunately, right now, we can’t do that. We don’t have
the time to wait.
And so instead, AI -- particularly
some of the more advanced AI techniques -- can be helpful in dealing with
unstructured data or data of multiple different formats. It’s therefore becoming
very important in the medical research community to use AI to better understand
the disease. It’s enabling some unexpected and very fruitful collaborations, from
what I’ve seen.
Gardner: Glyn,
do you also see AI delivering more, even though we’re in uncharted waters?
Bowden: The
benefits of something like machine learning (ML),
for example, which is a subset of AI, is very good at handling many, many
features. So with a human being approaching these projects, there are only so
many things you can keep in your head at once in terms of the variables you
need to consider when building a model to understand something.
But when you apply ML, you are
able to cope with millions or billions of features simultaneously -- and then
simulate models using that information. So it really does add the power of a million
scientists to the same problem we were trying to face alone before.
Gardner: And
is this AI benefit something that we can apply in many
different avenues? Are we also modeling better planning around operations,
or is this more research and development? Is it both?
Data
scientists are collaborating directly with medical science researchers
and learning how to incorporate subject matter expertise into data
science models.
Garg: There are two ways to answer the question of what’s happening with the use of AI in response to the pandemic. One is actually to the practice of data science itself.
One is, right now data
scientists are collaborating directly with medical science research and
learning how to incorporate subject matter expertise into data science models.
This has been one of the challenges preventing businesses from adopting AI in
more complex applications. But now we’re developing some of the best-practices
that will help us use AI in a lot of domains.
In addition, businesses are
considering the use of AI to help them manage their businesses and operations
going forward. That includes things such as using computer
vision (CV) to ensure that social distancing happens with their workforce,
or other types of compliance we might be asked to do in the future.
Gardner: Are
the pressures of the current environment allowing AI and data science benefits
to impact more people? We’ve been talking about the democratization of AI
for some time. Is this happening more now?
More data, opinions, options
Bowden |
Bowden: Absolutely,
and that’s both a positive and a negative. The data around the pandemic has
been made available to the general public. Anyone looking at news sites or
newspapers and consuming information from public channels -- accessing the disease incidence reports from Johns
Hopkins University, for example -- we have a steady stream of it. But those
data sources are all over the place and are being thrown to a public that is only
just now becoming data-savvy and data-literate.
As they consume this
information, add their context, and get a personal point of view, that is then
pushed back into the community again -- because as you get data-centric you
want to share it.
So we have a wide public feed
-- not only from universities and scholars, but from the general public, who
are now acting as public data scientists. I think that’s creating a huge
movement.
Garg: I
agree. Making such data available exposes pretty much anyone to these amazing
data portals, like Johns Hopkins University has made available. This is great
because it allows a lot of people to participate.
It can also be a challenge
because, as I mentioned, when you’re dealing with complex problems you need to
be able to incorporate subject matter expertise into the models you’re building
and in how you interpret the data you are analyzing.
And so, unfortunately, we’ve
already seen some cases -- blog posts or other types of analysis -- that get a
lot of attention in social media but are later found to be not taking into
account things that people who had spent their careers studying epidemiology,
for example, might know and understand.
Gardner: Recently,
I’ve seen articles where people now are calling this a misinformation
pandemic. Yet businesses and governments need good, hard inference information
and data to operate responsibly, to make the best decisions, and to reduce
risk.
What obstacles should people
overcome to make data science and AI useful and integral in a crisis situation?
Garg: One
of the things that’s underappreciated is that a foundation, a data platform,
makes data managed and accessible so you can contextualize and make stronger
decisions based on it. That’s going to be critical. It’s always critical in
leveraging data to make better decisions. And it can mean a larger investment
than people might expect, but it really pays off if you want to be a data-driven
organization.
Know where data comes from
Bowden: There
are a plethora of obstacles. The kind that Arti is referring to, and that is
being made more obvious in the pandemic, is the way we don’t focus on the
provenance of the data. So, where does the data come from? That doesn’t always
get examined, and as we were talking about a second ago, the context might not
be there.
All of that can be gleaned from
knowing the source of the data. The source of the data tends to come from the
metadata that surrounds it. So the metadata is the data that describes the
data. It could be about when the data was generated, who generated it, what it
was generated for, and who the intended consumer is. All of that could be part
of the metadata.
Organizations need to look at these
data sources because that’s ultimately how you determine the trustworthiness
and value of that data.
We
don't focus on the provenance of the data. Where does the data come
from? That doesn't always get examined and he context might not be
there.
Now it could be that you are taking data from external sources to aggregate with internal sources. And so the data platform piece that Arti was referring to applies to properly bringing those data pieces together. It shouldn’t just be you running data silos and treating them as you always treated them. It’s about aggregation of those data pieces. But you need to be able to trust those sources in order to be able to bring them together in a meaningful way.
So understanding the
provenance of the data, understanding where it came from or where it was
produced -- that’s key to knowing how to bring it together in that data
platform.
Gardner: Along
the lines of necessity being the mother of invention, it seems to me that a
crisis is also an opportunity to change culture in ways that are difficult
otherwise. Are we seeing accelerants given the current environment to the use
of AI and data?
AI adoption on the rise
Garg: I
will answer that question from two different perspectives. One is certainly the
research community. Many medical researchers, for example, are doing a lot of
work that is becoming more prominent in people’s eyes right now.
I can tell you from working with
researchers in this community and knowing many of them, that the medical
research community has been interested and excited to adopt advanced AI
techniques, big data techniques, into their research.
It’s not that they are doing
it for the first time, but definitely I see an acceleration of the desire and
necessity to make use of non-traditional techniques for analyzing their data. I
think it’s unlikely that they are going to go back to not using those for other
types of studies as well.
In addition, you are
definitely going to see AI utilized and become part of our new normal in the
future, if you will. We are already hearing from customers and vendors about
wanting to use things such as CV to monitor social distancing in places like
airports where thermal scanning might already be used. We’re also seeing more
interest in using that in retail.
So some AI solutions will become
a common part of our day-to-day lives.
Gardner: Glyn,
a more receptive environment to AI now?
Bowden: I
think so, yes. The general public are particularly becoming used to AI playing
a huge role. The mystery around it is beginning to fade and it is becoming far
more accepted that AI is something that can be trusted.
It does have its limitations.
It’s not going to turn into Terminator
and take over the world.
The fact that we are seeing AI
more in our day-to-day lives means people are beginning to depend on the
results of AI, at least from the understanding of the pandemic, but that drives
that exception.
The
general public are particularly becoming used to AI playing a huge
role. The mystery around it is beginning to fade and it is becoming far
more accepted that AI is something that can be trusted.
When you start looking at how it will enable people to get back to somewhat of a normal existence -- to go to the store more often, to be able to start traveling again, and to be able to return to the office -- there is that dependency that Arti mentioned around video analytics to ensure social distancing or temperatures of people using thermal detection. All of that will allow people to move on with their lives and so AI will become more accepted.
I think AI softens the blow of
what some people might see as a civil liberty being eroded. It softens the blow
of that in ways and says, “This is the benefit already and this is as far as it
goes.” So it at least forms discussions whenever it was formed before.
Garg: One
of the really valuable things happening right now are how major news
publications have been publishing amazing
infographics, very informative, both in terms of the analysis that they
provide of data and very specific things like how restaurants are recovering in
areas that have stay-in-place orders.
In addition to providing nice
visualizations of the data, some of the major news publications have been very
responsible by providing captions and context. It’s very heartening in some
cases to look at the comments sections associated with some of these
infographics as the general public really starts to grapple with the benefits
and limitations of AI, how to contextualize it and use it to make informed
decisions while also recognizing that you can go too far and over-interpret the
information.
Gardner:
Speaking of informed decisions, to what degree you are seeing the C-suite -- the
top executives in many businesses -- look to their dashboards and query
datasets in new ways? Are we seeing data-driven innovation at the top of
decision-making as well?
Data inspires C-suite innovation
Bowden: The
C-suite is definitely taking a lot of notice of what’s happening in the sense
that they are seeing how valuable the aggregation of data is and how it’s forwarding
responses to things like this.
So they are beginning to look
internally at what data sources are available within their own organizations. I
am thinking now about how do we bring this together so we can get a better view
of not only the tactical decisions that we have to make, but using the macro
environmental data, and how do we now start making strategic decisions, and I
think the value is being demonstrated for them in plain sight.
So rather than having to
experiment, to see if there is going to be value, there is a full expectation
that value will be delivered, and now the experiment is how much they can draw
from this data now.
Garg: It’s
a little early to see how much this is going change their decision-making,
especially because frankly we are in a moment when a lot of the C-suite was
already exploring AI and opening up to its possibilities in a way they hadn’t even
a year ago.
And so there is an issue of
timing here. It’s hard to know which is the cause and which is just a coincidence.
But, for sure, to Glyn’s point, they are dealing with more change.
Gardner: For IT organizations, many of them are going to be facing some decisions about where to put their resources. They are going to be facing budget pressures. For IT to rise and provide the foundation needed to enable what we have been talking about in terms of AI in different sectors and in different ways, what should they be thinking about?
How can IT make sure they are
accelerating the benefits of data science at a time when they need to be even more
choosy about how they spend their dollars?
IT wields the sword to deliver DX
Bowden: With
IT particularly, they have never had so much focus as right now, and probably budgets
are responding in a similar way. This is because everyone has to now look at
their digital strategy and their digital presence -- and move as much as they can
online to be able to be resistant to pandemics and at-risk situations that are like
this.
So IT has to have the sword,
if you like, in that battle. They have to fix the digital strategy. They have
to deliver on that digital promise. And there is an immediate expectation of
customers that things just will be available online.
With
the pandemic, there is now an AI movement that will get driven purely
from the fact that so much more commerce and business are going to be
digitized. We need to enable that digital strategy.
If you look at students in universities, for example, they assume that it will be a very quick fix to start joining Zoom calls and to be able to meet that issue right away. Well, actually there is a much bigger infrastructure that has to sit behind those things in order to be able to enable that digital strategy.
So, there is now an AI
movement that will get driven purely from the fact that so much more commerce
and business is going to be digitized.
Gardner: Let’s
look to some more examples and associated metrics. Where do you see AI and data
science really shining? Are there some poster children, if you will, of how
organizations -- either named or unnamed -- are putting AI and data science to
use in the pandemic to mitigate the crisis or foster a new normal?
Garg: It’s
hard to say how the different types of video analytics and CV techniques are
going to facilitate reopening in a safe manner. But that’s what I have heard
about the most at this time in terms of customers adopting AI.
In general, we are at very
early stages of how an organization is going to decide to adopt AI. And so, for
sure, the research community is scrambling to take advantage of this, but for
organizations it’s going to take time to further adopt AI into any organization.
If you do it right, it can be transformational. Yet transformational usually
means that a lot of things need to change -- not just the solution that you
have deployed.
Bowden: There’s
a plethora of examples from the medical side, such as how we have been able to
do gene analysis, and those sorts of things, to understand the virus very
quickly. That’s well-known and well-covered.
The bit that’s less well
covered is AI supporting decision-making by governments, councils, and civil
bodies. They are taking not only the data from how many people are getting sick
and how many people are in hospital, which is very important to understand
where the disease is but augmenting that with data from a socioeconomic
situation. That means you can understand, for example, where an aging
population might live or where a poor population might live because there’s
less employment in that area.
The impact of what will happen
to their jobs, what will happen if they lose transport links, and the impact if
they lose access to healthcare -- all of that is being better understood by the
AI models.
As we focus on not just the
health data but also the economic data and social data, we have a much better
understanding of how society will react, which has been guiding the principles
that the governments have been using to respond.
So when people look at the
government and say, “Well, they have come out with one thing and now they are changing
their minds,” that’s normally a data-driven decision and people aren’t
necessarily seeing it that way.
So AI is playing a massive
role in getting society to understand the impact of the virus -- not just from
a medical perspective, but from everything else and to help the people.
Gardner: Glyn,
this might be more apparent to the Pointnext organization, but how is AI
benefiting the operational services side? Service and support providers have
been put under tremendous additional strain and demand, and enterprises are
looking for efficiency and adaptability.
Are they pointing the AI focus
at their IT systems? How does the data they use for running their own
operations come to their aid? Is there an AIOps
part to this story?
AI needs people, processes
Bowden:
Absolutely, and there has definitely become a drive toward AIOps.
When you look at an
operational organization within an IT group today, it’s surprising how much of
it is still human-based. It’s a personal eyeball looking at a graph and then
determining a trend from that graph. Or it’s the gut feeling that a storage
administrator has when they know their system is getting full and they have an
idea in the back of their head that last year something happened seasonally
from within the organization making decisions that way.
We are therefore seeing
systems such as HPE’s
InfoSight start to be more prominent in the way people make those
decisions. So that allows plugging into an ecosystem whereby you can see the
trend of your systems over a long time, where you can use AI modeling as well
as advanced analytics to understand the behavior of a system over time, and how
the impact of things -- like everybody is suddenly starting to work remotely –
does to the systems from a data perspective.
So the models-to-be need to
catch up in that sense as well. But absolutely, AIOps is desirable. If it’s not
there today, it’s certainly something that people are pursuing a lot more
aggressively than they were before the pandemic.
Gardner: As we
look to the future, for those organizations that want to be more data-driven
and do it quickly, any words of wisdom with 20/20 hindsight? How do you
encourage enterprises -- and small businesses as well -- to better prepare
themselves to use AI and data science?
Garg: Whenever
I think about an organization adopting AI, it’s not just the AI solution itself
but all of the organizational processes -- and most importantly the people in
an organization and preparing them for the adoption of AI.
I advise organizations that
want to use AI and corporate data-driven decision-making to, first of all, make
sure you are solving a really important problem for your organization.
Sometimes the goal of adopting AI becomes more important than the goal of
solving some kind of problem. So I always encourage any AI initiative to be
focused on really high-value efforts.
Use your AI initiative to do
something really valuable to your organization and spend a lot of time thinking
about how to make it fit into the way your organization currently works. Make
it enhance the day-to-day experience of your employees because, at the end of
the day, your people are your most valuable assets.
Those are important non-technical
things that are non-specific to the AI solution itself that organizations
should think about if they want the shift to being AI-driven and data-driven to
be successful.
For the AI itself, I suggest
using the simplest-possible model, solution, and method of analyzing your data
that you can. I cannot tell you the number of times where I have heard an
organization come in saying that they want to use a very complex AI technique
to solve a problem that if you look at it sideways you realize could be solved
with a checklist or a simple spreadsheet. So the other rule of thumb with AI is
to keep it as simple as possible. That will prevent you from incurring a lot of
overhead.
Gardner: Glyn,
how should organizations prepare to integrate data science and AI into more
parts of their overall planning, management, and operations?
Bowden: You
have to have a use case with an outcome in mind. It’s very important that you
have a metric to determine whether it’s successful or not, and for the amount
of value you add by bringing in AI. Because, as Arti said, a lot of these
problems can be solved in multiple ways; AI isn’t the only way and often isn’t
the best way. Just because it exists in that domain doesn’t necessarily mean it
should be used.
AI
isn't an on/off switch; it's an iteration. You can start with something
small and then build into bigger and bigger components that bring more
data to bear on the problem, and then add new features that lead to new
functions and outcomes.
The second part is AI isn’t an on/off switch; it’s an iteration. You can start with something small and then build into bigger and bigger components that bring more and more data to bear on the problem, as well as then adding new features that lead to new functions and outcomes.
The other part of it is: AI is
part of an ecosystem; it never exists in isolation. You don’t just drop in an
AI system on its own and it solves a problem. You have to plug it into other
existing systems around the business. It has data sources that feed it so that
it can come to some decision.
Unless you think about what
happens beyond that -- whether it’s visualizing something to a human being who
will make a decision or automating a decision – it could really just be hiring
the smartest person you can find and locking them in a room.
Pandemic’s positive impact
Gardner: I
would like to close out our discussion with a riff on the adage of, “You can
bring a horse to water but you can’t make them drink.” And that means trust in
the data outcomes and people who are thirsty for more analytics and who want to
use it.
How can we look with
reassurance at the pandemic as having a positive impact on AI in that people
want more data-driven analytics and will trust it? How do we encourage the
perception to use AI? How is this current environment impacting that?
Garg: The
fact that so many people are checking the trackers of how the pandemic is
spreading and learning through a lot of major news publications as they are doing
a great job of explaining this. They are learning through the tracking to see
how stay-in-place orders affect the spread of the disease in their community. You
are seeing that already.
We are seeing growth and trust
in how analyzing data can help make better decisions. As I mentioned earlier, this
leads to a better understanding of the limitations of data and a willingness to
engage with that data output as not just black or white types of things.
As Glyn mentioned, it’s an
iterative process, understanding how to make sense of data and how to build
models to interpret the information that’s locked in the data. And I think we
are seeing that.
We are seeing a growing desire
to not only view this as some kind of black box that sits in some data center --
and I don’t even know where it is -- that someone is going to program, and it’s
going to give me a result that will affect me. For some people that might be a
positive thing, but for other people it might be a scary thing.
People are now much more
willing to engage with the complexities of data science. I think that’s
generally a positive thing for people wanting to incorporate it in their lives more
because it becomes familiar and less other, if you will.
Gardner: Glyn,
perceptions of trust as an accelerant to the use of yet more analytics and more
AI?
Bowden: The
trust comes from the fact that so many different data sources are out there. So
many different organizations have made the data available that there is a
consistent view of where the data works and where it doesn’t. And that’s built
up the capability of people to accept that not all models work the first time, that
experimentation does happen, and it is an iterative approach that gets to the
end goal.
I have worked with customers who, when they saw a first experiment fall flat because it didn’t quite hit the accuracy or targets they were looking for, they ended the experiment. Whereas now I think we are seeing in real time on a massive scale that it’s all about iteration. It doesn’t necessarily work the first time. You need to recalibrate, move on, and do refinement. You bring in new data sources to get the extra value.
What we are seeing throughout
this pandemic is the more expertise and data science you throw in an instance,
the much better the outcome at the end. It’s not about that first result. It’s
about the direction of the results, and the upward trend of success.
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